Roxy from Rock of Love season 2 was one of the most refreshingly real cast members of all three seasons. Roxy joins Lacey on the Talk of Love podcast in person, in Las Vegas, for a wide-ranging, laugh-out-loud, honest conversation about reality TV, music, life, and the unexpected journey from cocktail waitress at a Hollywood music venue to becoming a Rock of Love season 2 cast member, to a Las Vegas barbershop owner.

Topics covered by Roxy and Lacey in this episode include:

• How Roxy got cast for Rock of Love 2 — including a drunk casting wrangler at The Gig on Melrose in L.A., a bartender who pushed her to audition, and a "mystery rock star" who she immediately called b.s. on
• Why she's still convinced she was supposed to go home on the first episode — and how getting blackout drunk on night one accidentally saved her spot
• Her candid theory on how producers decide the order that the girls go home — and what she thinks really happened with her elimination
• What it was actually like inside the Rock of Love 2 house: barely seeing Bret, too much alcohol, food that started running out, and feeling "brainwashed" when she left
• The VIP pass situation — why she didn't push harder to use it, and how playing it cool actually backfired
• What the producers tried to get her to say during the roller derby challenge — and why she refused
• Her philosophy on reality TV: "heightened reality," not scripted — and why she's a perfect example of what happens when producers can't move you
• A music deep-dive: from punk and hardcore (Death by Stereo, Black Flag, Bane, Blood Brothers) to Queens of the Stone Age to the moment a Beastie Boys song on her barbershop playlist made her realize she was officially "old"
• The debate on whether Rock of Love could exist on TV today — and what a modern version might look like
• Running into Brandi M. from Rock of Love season 1 at a tattoo parlor — and then ending up at a Rambo premiere with her
• Her wild nights hanging out with Catherine from Rock of Love 2 — Mickey Avalon's table, Mike Tyson on speed dial, and Lacey and Kristy Joe barely surviving the night
• Meeting Daisy at a Vegas event years later, and coming away with major respect for how smart and articulate she actually is
• Her internship at 20 years of age, working for Congresswoman Shelley Berkley — and what it was like to road trip with Congressman John Lewis to the Congressional Black Caucus
• Visiting the Civil Rights Museum in Little Rock with someone who was literally on the walls of the Civil Rights Museum
• The last time she saw John Lewis: he came to her barbershop, she gave him a head shave, and he told her the story behind a bump on his head — a scar from being struck by a police officer during the Selma to Montgomery March
• Her path from aspiring actress in LA, to cosmetology school, to opening her own barbershop called Noble Wolf Barbers in Las Vegas — and why she says she owes everything to moving to LA

Roxy is proof that sometimes the most interesting story belongs to the person who was just there for the experience.