Kerry Schwartz joins Lacey on Talk of Love for a smart, funny, and refreshingly candid conversation about Frank the Entertainer in a Basement Affair — and the bizarre path that got her there.

Before she ever appeared on VH1, Kerry was already working behind the scenes in television and even casting for Jersey Shore when a producer encouraged her to audition. She talks about unexpectedly ending up on the show alongside her real-life friend Kathy, how difficult it became once both women developed feelings for Frank, and what it was like trying to date inside a house where Frank's parents were always just a room away. Kerry also reflects on the drama, the embarrassment, the strange basement-house setup, and the very real production instincts she brought with her from working in TV. Kerry is sharp, charming, and takes us on a great deep dive into one of the most underrated "Of Love" spinoffs.